Comments on: Mestre Waldemar da Paixão http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/ Social Inclusion / Intercultural Learning / Education / Capoeira Philosophy Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:40:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mestre Boa Gente: an organic path in Capoeira | 4capoeirathoughts http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/#comment-5372 Mestre Boa Gente: an organic path in Capoeira | 4capoeirathoughts Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:48:30 +0000 http://4capoeirathoughts.wordpress.com/?p=58#comment-5372 [...] These other posts might give you a better context of Bahia and Capoeira back in those days as well: Mestre Suassuna: his biography and take on Capoeira, styles, and today’s groups; and Mestre Waldemar da Paixão [...] [...] These other posts might give you a better context of Bahia and Capoeira back in those days as well: Mestre Suassuna: his biography and take on Capoeira, styles, and today’s groups; and Mestre Waldemar da Paixão [...]

]]> By: 4CapoeiraThoughts http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/#comment-467 4CapoeiraThoughts Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:22:00 +0000 http://4capoeirathoughts.wordpress.com/?p=58#comment-467 Vovô, I believe every approach of Capoeira is worthwhile. The problem lies, I think, when people and institutions try to become rules. Capoeira is made by everyone's participation, but it doesn't actually belong to no one. As for the big egos, I believe our best shot is to better prepare the next generations so that they can recognise oppressive behaviours and fight them since from the beginning. Paulo Freire warns about this... The oppressor must be freed by the oppressed. In their fight for freedom, the oppressed, turns out to free everyone; including their oppressors. Axé Vovô! Até breve! Vovô,
I believe every approach of Capoeira is worthwhile. The problem lies, I think, when people and institutions try to become rules. Capoeira is made by everyone’s participation, but it doesn’t actually belong to no one. As for the big egos, I believe our best shot is to better prepare the next generations so that they can recognise oppressive behaviours and fight them since from the beginning. Paulo Freire warns about this… The oppressor must be freed by the oppressed. In their fight for freedom, the oppressed, turns out to free everyone; including their oppressors.
Axé Vovô!
Até breve!

]]> By: Sandro Lionello aka Vovo' http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/#comment-406 Sandro Lionello aka Vovo' Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:44:33 +0000 http://4capoeirathoughts.wordpress.com/?p=58#comment-406 but I' m sure you should ( allow your students and yourself free to express practise similar to that of M.Valdemar).What I mean is that M.Valdemar was playing rodas with his poor people living in slums. He was celebrating Capoeira every day as well as all the ancestors ,killed or survivors, There was not the problem of the modern capoeira conceived as sport "to show up". Of course he thought that Capoeira was good for both the phisical and the spiritual aspects, of his "students". We cannot pick up on our shoulders the mission to convert everybody in the world to a more conscious approach and to stop him/herself to practise capoeira just on the skin,without thinking where it comes from , why it exists etc.. What should we do with all these exhibitionists, more over dangerous superego-mankind" representatives? Vovo' but I’ m sure you should ( allow your students and yourself free to express practise similar to that of M.Valdemar).What I mean is that M.Valdemar was playing rodas with his poor people living in slums. He was celebrating Capoeira every day as well as all the ancestors ,killed or survivors, There was not the problem of the modern capoeira conceived as sport “to show up”. Of course he thought that Capoeira was good for both the phisical and the spiritual aspects, of his “students”.
We cannot pick up on our shoulders the mission to convert everybody in the world to a more conscious approach and to stop him/herself to practise capoeira just on the skin,without thinking where it comes from , why it exists etc..
What should we do with all these exhibitionists, more over dangerous superego-mankind” representatives?
Vovo’

]]> By: 4CapoeiraThoughts http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/#comment-405 4CapoeiraThoughts Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:13:33 +0000 http://4capoeirathoughts.wordpress.com/?p=58#comment-405 Oi Vovô, It's difficult to follow the real radicals... Most people goes to churches, but rarely they live their lives like Jesus lived his (poor, with unconditional love, going against all dogmatic institutions in his time, etc.) It's not that different in Capoeira. Most groups uses the 'Old Mestres' names and lives to build their twisted (mostly money-driven) view of Capoeira, but do not want their students to express their practice like these wise people once did... Axé Vovô! Eurico Oi Vovô,

It’s difficult to follow the real radicals… Most people goes to churches, but rarely they live their lives like Jesus lived his (poor, with unconditional love, going against all dogmatic institutions in his time, etc.)

It’s not that different in Capoeira. Most groups uses the ‘Old Mestres’ names and lives to build their twisted (mostly money-driven) view of Capoeira, but do not want their students to express their practice like these wise people once did…

Axé Vovô!
Eurico

]]> By: Sandro Lionello aka Vovo' http://4capoeirathoughts.com/2009/10/17/mestre-waldemar-da-paixao/#comment-402 Sandro Lionello aka Vovo' Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:10:08 +0000 http://4capoeirathoughts.wordpress.com/?p=58#comment-402 C.M Eurico, I'm wandering why we don't follow Mestre Valdemar then:it is simple ,effective , consistent and it has the potential to keep us on the railway, but , like the train does, we could pick up other people. As you know I like Mestre Valdemar : I'm a fundamentalist organic. Axe' Vovo' C.M Eurico,
I’m wandering why we don’t follow Mestre Valdemar then:it is simple ,effective , consistent and it has the potential to keep us on the railway, but , like the train does, we could pick up other people.
As you know I like Mestre Valdemar : I’m a fundamentalist organic.
Axe’
Vovo’

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